Jonah Goldberg and Mollie Hemingway, got into a heated argument, all because of one tweet from President Donald Trump.
During Thursday’s airing of the show, the two panelists got into a very heated debated.
Discussing a tweet from Trump, “With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea…” and “…whether there are “tapes” or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings.”
“It was, it was a bad idea,” Goldberg responded, “and it got him in a lot of trouble. And he’s still trying to back out of it. I gotta say, I don’t really care about the tapes, I always thought it was a bluff, to me it is perfect example of how he tries to run his presidency like a reality show, like wait for the big reveal at the big mid-season break kinda thing.”
“What does bother me about that tweet is his insinuation that it’s entirely plausible that members of the ‘deep state’ or the intelligence community, or law enforcement are bugging the Oval Office without his awareness,” he continued. “And that is a pretty provocative charge to make. I’m sure he’s making it, you know, if he ever gets pushback on it, he’ll say he was just speaking tongue-in-cheek, but I thought that was the more offensive part of it.”
“No, that’s ridiculous,” Hemingway interrupted, “you’ve had nothing but months of leaks from intelligence agencies about people affiliated with the Trump campaign or otherwise, it’s not insane at all to think that there might be surveillance since we’ve seen so many again, unmasked…”
“What allegations that Donald Trump has been surreptitiously recorded without his approval?” Goldberg said.
“What, I mean, the issue with that original tweet is that James Comey had already been leaking to the New York Times,” Hemingway responded, “and he’d been presenting stories as if he was some hero of the conversations he had had with Trump. That tweet actually got James Comey to admit that he did three times tell Donald Trump that he wasn’t under investigation. It got him to admit that he did say Mike Flynn was a good guy when he was asked about it by the president. And it did get him to admit also that he pledged his honest loyalty to Donald Trump which is contrary to what he had said to the New York Times the day before that.”
“It also got him a special prosecutor,” Goldberg responded.
“I think it’s naive to think that that would have not happened otherwise,” Hemingway said. “James Comey was clearly laying a groundwork in a campaign through his leaking and it’s kind of rewriting history.”
“That’s possible,” Goldberg allowed. “That’s possible, but my point still stands. There’s no evidence whatsoever that anyone was bugging or wiretapping the Oval Office or the President of the United States without his awareness.”
‘There was a lot of leaking…” Hemingway intervened.
“Leaking is not bugging!” Goldberg shot back.
“…of taped conversations,” Hemingway continued, “for a group of people that are not doing a lot of surveillance.”